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| Posted By: AKSHAY Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 573 | Prabhat ji Aap bathayenge ki kisne woh 2 bogies ko jalaaya thaa? Aur usspar kya action liya gaya hai? Aur isske bare mein aap kya kar rahe hain? Akshay |
| Posted By: 65 Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 574 | Kaha hai rei tu moldiar tola mei re mai ke chodo Salle tu moldiar tola mai hai ya shankarwar tola mai...madhar chod koi tope nahi hai....gaar mei goli maarenge gush ke re madharchod...Sharma likhta hai tho bhumihar hoga....hum bhi wahi haisalle jhat kaha rehta hai re moldiar mei bhosarchod |
| Posted By: AKSHAY Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 566 | MAAFI MAANG WOH 2 BOGIES KO JALAANE KE LIYE MAAFI MAANG, PHIR HUMSE BAATEIN KAR!! SAMJHA KYA!! AKSHAY |
| Posted By: Akshay Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 567 | 65 FIRST CONDEMN THE BURNING OF THE 2 BOGIES OF SABARMATI EXPRESS FULL OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN, THEN COME AND TALK TO ME YOU HYPOCRITE!! AKSHAY |
| Posted By: Akshay Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 567 | To All Forum contributors It is all there for you to read in black and white. You make up your own minds. This debate started a long time back. Whenever one of you has asked me to stop discussing RSS, I stopped a long while back, but whenever I would stop, these same people would continue bashing RSS. So in other words, they asked me to stop bashing RJD/CONGRESS, and I did whenever they asked, yet they continued to bash RSS whenever I left the forum, behind my back. I am so sick of their double standards. Who are these people anyway?? Do you really think they are our moral guardians?? They are hypocrites and need to be exposed. The evidence is there for all of you in black and white. All you have to do is scroll back and their postings regarding RSS, then read mine. I am telling you all clearly, bahut ho gaya, from now on I will not tolerate this crap from these hypocrites. Whenever they discuss RSS, I will always be there to counter them.. AKSHAY SHARMA- RSS SUPPORTER MULDIAR TOLA, MOKAMA, BIHAR |
| Posted By: 65 Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 578 | Bhag re bhosarlund Akshay teri maia ke chodo...salle teri gaar mei laura...kuta ka...bhosari bahut logic baat kar raha hei tu madharr jhat..bhaag saale yaha se |
| Posted By: 65 Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 577 | Arre Akshaywa Arre teri maia ke chodo Akshay/Papua...maa ka laura ...tu phir aa gaya re teri nani ke chodo...bhag ya se bhosari walla |
| Posted By: Akshay Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 580 | RSS Reader First I want you to condemn the burning of the 2 bogies of Sabarmati Express full of women and children. If you cannot, then you are full of you know what! and everything you say is just garbage, and does not mean a thing. You guys think of yourselves as moral authorities, yet you are hypocritical fools!! I repeat, first condemn the burning of the 2 bogies of Sabarmati Express full of women and children, then let us have a real conversation, otherwise just keep writing garbage, and everyone already knows you are full of it!! Akshay |
| Posted By: Akshay Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 582 | Prabhat ji Please don't justify wrong things.. You guys seem to feel its ok to bash RSS because you have some moral authority to do so.. that is just bakwaas.. You have no moral authority to condemn anybody. I have seen your trend also on this forum. You seem to condemn anyone who opposes your view point, but anyone who supports your viewpoint, no matter what rubbish they say, you always manage to support them in your twisted way, like you are doing with Rupesh, that is called a double standard. Don't try to use your fancy words and twisted logic on this forum. The fact is that you all are hypocrites, and you know it full well!! You will condemn me, but you won't condemn Rupesh when he talks garbage, with you guys its really ironic also. You are the same people who request me to stop discussing RSS, then when I stop and leave forum, you start bashing RSS again. Now isn't that hypocritical on your part?? I am so sick of your double standards, and your twisted logic and perversions. From now on, I'm telling you clearly, if you stick to development, then its fine, if you want to indulge in RSS bashing, then I will be there every step of the way pointing out your hypocrisy and double standards. Akshay |
| Posted By: RSS Reader Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 628 | B. S. Moonje/mentor of Hegdewar B. S. Moonje, one of the earliest proponents of Hindutva and the mentor of Hegdewar (the founder of the RSS). Moonje traveled to Italy to meet with Mussolini and study the methods of Italian fascism. Reflecting on what he saw in Italy and seeking a reproduction of Italian fascist organization in India he wrote: |
| Posted By: RSS Reader Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 633 | Controversial Swami does a disappearing act EXPRESS NEWS SERVICE "SURAT, Feb 3: Swami Aseemanand, a Vaghai-based sadhu who was allegedly a principal figure in the reconversion of Christian tribals to Hinduism in the Dangs, is said to have moved out of the district following warnings from the authorities. Though the district authorities had not taken any action against him, it was reportedly made clear to him that his presence was unwanted and that if he continued his reconversion practices, he would be in trouble. On a query from Express Newsline, District Collector J P Gupta confirmed that the Swami had left his ashram, the Vanvasi Kalyan Parishad at Waghai. The ashram had been in the eye of a storm ever since the anti-Christian attacks gathered momentum in the district. After coming to Waghai a couple of years ago, the Swami had spearheaded the formation of Bajrang Dal units in every village. The recent violence against the Christian community was reportedly led by activists groomed by the Swami. The Vanvasi Kalyan Parishad, an organisation comprising mostly tribals, is an offshoot of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, of which the Swami is a national president. In Dangs, he had been associated with the Hindu Jagran Manch and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad. He also attended the December 25 rally at the invitation of the Hindu Jagran Manch. While local leaders of Hindu Jagran Manch and Vishwa Hindu parishad were arrested by the police for instigating violence, there was no police case registered against the Swami. Though even district authorities knew that in Dangs it was the Swami who was pulling the strings. Christian leaders had been complaining to the authorities about the Swami's activities. Talking to Express Newsline, the collector said the Swami had not been driven out of Dangs but the message had been sent across. ``I'm told he has not been seen in the district for the past 15 days,'', he said. ``Neither community wants any interference from outside. It is a local problem and we want to solve it locally.'' Asked if Vishwa Hindu Parishad president Pradip Patil -- a Maharashtrian -- would be asked to leave the district, the collector said ``No. Patil has been residing in Ahwa for the last 15 years.'' Though some locals disputed Gupta's contention " |
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| Posted By: Pappu Yadav Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 610 | What the Islamists fear What the Islamists fear Two recent incidents point towards spiralling Islamic aggressiveness in the country. The first is Uttar Pradesh Sunni Wakf board's claiming proprietorship of Taj Mahal. The other is SIMI threat e-mail to iconic Yoga-Guru Swami Ramdev. However, the best thing about these is that they expose the public face of "secularism". In the first incident, two rival sects of Muslims have staked ownership of the Taj Mahal. The UP Sunni Wakf board has demanded that the ownership of Taj Mahal be transferred to it by Archaeological Survey of India by April 9. The claim is based on the premise that the Taj, being a grave, is Wakf property. Muslims also tender Friday namaz at the Taj Mahal. A section of Shias led by Khursi Agha of Lucknow is prodding the Shia Wafk board to stake a similar claim on Taj Mahal since Mumtaz Mahal herself was a Shia and so was the principle architect Isha Khan Shirazi from Iran. Let us see how a communal or sectarian claim of Taj Mahal can really upset India's "secular" facade. The Taj is a poster site for Indian tourism like the Great Pyramids of Egypt, the Eiffel Tower in France, and Statue of Liberty in the US. Noted Indo-Anglian writer Amit Chaudhuri wrote: "Social scientist Partha Chatterjee is puzzled and engrossed by what has happened to these 'national images' - for instance, the Taj Mahal; Shah Jahan's Red Fort - as they have been represented in our textbooks in the last 40 or 50 years: That is, in our relatively brief, but palpably long, history as a republic. Prof Chatterjee discovers that early photographs and engravings found in textbooks dating back, say, to the Twenties, are gradually replaced in textbooks after 1947 by a certain kind of line drawing. He finds no economic raison d'etre for this change: 'Are they cheaper to print? Not really; both are printed from zinc blocks made by the same photographic process.' "But the more telling change occurs in the nature of the representations themselves, as the pictures of certain monuments are transformed into 'national icons'. As these monuments are turned into 'national icons' in post-Independence history textbooks, the pictures are emptied of signs of randomness, emptied, indeed, of all but the monument itself, and a new credo and economy of representation comes into existence" (The Casual Moment-The mysterious indefinable quality of poetry, The Telegraph, Calcutta, February 13). Taj Mahal is a mausoleum. As far as I am aware, Islam forbids erecting mausoleums over graves. Yet Muslim kings built mausoleums for their loved ones and sometimes for themselves in advance. But most Muslim kings in India also enjoyed wine, took more than four wives, patronised musicians and painters. They sometimes opened their purse strings to dargah (shrine) or mazaar (grave) of Sufi saints. But actually, all these are un-Islamic practices, howsoever humane they might appear to non-Muslims. Non-Muslim often romanticise Islam though these essentially un-Islamic customs. But Sunni clerics, who drive Islam, abhor them. We idolise, no doubt mistakenly, Emperor Akbar for his religious syncretism of Deen-e-Ilahi (which was nothing but promoting Islam through the backdoor). But when Akbar died in 1605, the ulema refused to recite the kalima on his body, declaring him an apostate equivalent. Even Muslim scholars of our era like late Ali Mian (Syed Abu-ul-Hasan Ali Nadwi) held similar opinion about Akbar. Muslim scholars clearly feel that the Sunni empire established by Babar, got strayed in Akbar's gesture of tolerance, Jahangir's indulgences in wine and women, Shahjahan's romanticisations - and it was not until a puritan Aurangzeb that the original pursuit could be revived - albeit unsuccessfully. Though mausoleums violate Islamic principles, Sunni scholars tolerate them, and don't prescribe their destruction. After all, it will be no good to demolish these souvenirs of Islamic era. However, they don't compromise on Islam by idolising them. So why are these learned clerics asking for the Taj so passionately? Taking over the Taj would signify a great symbolic victory for Islamists. It would undermine the authority of the Central Government. With Taj taken, the next target would be the Red Fort in Delhi and then the one in Agra. For, these were once the seats of the Mughal empire - atop which fluttered the green banner of Islam. The Mughal empire was the standard bearer of Islam in India. Shah Abdul Aziz (1746-1823), son of the architect of the Wahabi movement in India, Shah Wali Ullah, on perceiving the decline of the Mughal empire, proclaimed in 1810 that India had ceased to be Dar-ul-Islam (House of Islam) and had become, instead, Dar-ul-Harb (House of War). If the Sunni Wakf Board is successful in taking over the Taj, its moral claim on Delhi's Red Fort and the Agra Fort will be emboldened. As a prelude to the take over, Muslims would start congregating in Pearl Mosque (Moti Masjid) inside Delhi's Red Fort as they did at Taj Mahal. The Wakf claim can be theoretically extrapolated. If the seat of erstwhile Mughal power should come under Wakf's jurisdiction, why not entire India, most of which was Dar-ul-Islam for six centuries? Remember how Hamas justified its call for "destruction of Israel" by saying that the entire land of Palestine was Wakf property belonging to Allah? In the second incident Swami Ramdev, the iconic yoga-guru of Aastha channel, has received a threat from banned SIMI (Students Islamic Militia of India) through an e-mail. He has been forbidden to teach yoga to Muslims. He has been warned of major "collateral damages" in his dream-project, Patanjali Yoga Kendra in Hardwar. Now, Swami Ramdev, of modern gurus, teaches religion the least. He gives no pravachan from the Gita, Upanishad, Puranas or Ramayana. He teaches breathing techniques and some asanas (physical postures) that eliminate physical, mental and moral maladies and promote general well-being. These, according to him, can provide almost miracle-cures to many diseases pronounced incurable. And many practitioners have actually experienced such "healing miracles" after pursuing his simple techniques. They have gladly come forward with their medical records in support of their claim. Aastha channel claims a viewership of over 20 million people. Most of those who had taken advantage of Swami Ramdev's yoga had done so over the television rather than in his yoga camp. SIMI can prevent Aastha channel from reaching Muslim viewers only by preventing cable TV from reaching them. All of us, regardless of our religion, breathe the same oxygen. Will Muslims cease to be Muslims if they breathe it correctly through Pranayam? I will not become a Muslim by sitting in the posture of namaz, nor a Christian by doing the Alexander method of posture correction, or start speaking Chinese by doing Falun Gong exercises? So isn't there something suspicious about SIMI's fear? Homeopathy was developed in Germany by Samuel Heinemann. Maharaja Ranjit Singh was perhaps the first Indian to be treated in this method by German doctors who visited him. But he lived and died as a "Hindoo King". No one ever became a Christian after being treated with his wonderful system of homeopathy medicine. Muslims of Pakistan have no hitch in coming to India for delicate surgeries and transplants performed by "kafir" doctors of India. But SIMI sees a problem if a Muslim is healed of his diabetes, heart disease, obesity, skin diseases, and tension through pranayam and asana. What SIMI actually fears is Hindu resurgence through yoga, which is likely to cure the hypocrisy called "secularism" in the Indian mind. The Hindu civilisation might suddenly come across "self-realisation", something Islamists don't want. But their design of Islamisation of India will be foiled again. |
| Posted By: RSS Reader Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 611 | What judicial commission says abt RSS involvement If the Jaganmohan Reddy Commission on the Ahmedabad riots (1969) and the Madan Commission on the Bhiwandi riots (1970) exposed the Unified Front tactics of the RSS and its political wing, the Jan Sangh, ancestor of the BJP, Justice Vithayathils report on the Tellicherry riots (1971) censured the RSS for rousing up communal feelings and for preparing the background for the disturbances. Justice Jitendra Narains Report on the Jamshedpur riots (1979) censured the RSS supremo M.D Deoras personally for the communal propaganda that had caused the riots. The RSS had held a conference there only four days before the Ram Navami festival (when the riots erupted) and the speech delivered by Balasaheb Deoras contributed their full share in fomenting these communal feelings. The RSS had created a climate for these disturbances. The report of Justice P Venugopal of the Madras High Court, on the riots in Kanyakumari in March 1982, found the RSS guilty of fomenting anti-Christian feelings: It has taken upon itself the task to teach the minority their place and if they are not willing to learn their place, teach them a lesson. The RSS has given respectability to communalism and communal riots and demoralise (sic) administration. [65] |
| Posted By: RSS Reader Posted On: Mar 28, 2005 Views: 607 | RSS Italian Link The use of violence as a political strategy has been clearly outlined by some of the earliest proponents of Hindutva [1]. Golwalkar, the second Supreme Leader of the RSS, celebrated Nazi Germany and her purging the country of the Semitic races the Jews. For Golwalkar, the purging of an entire people was entirely justifiable as it was an expression of national pride at its highest Just as Golwalkar celebrated Nazi Germany, so did B. S. Moonje, one of the earliest proponents of Hindutva and the mentor of Hegdewar (the founder of the RSS). Moonje traveled to Italy to meet with Mussolini and study the methods of Italian fascism. Reflecting on what he saw in Italy and seeking a reproduction of Italian fascist organization in India he wrote: This training is meant for qualifying and fitting our boys for the game of killing masses of men with the ambition of winning victory |
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