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| Posted By: wotsathedeal Posted On: Sep 5, 2003 Views: 4177 | the real problem! as i read through this pole of yours i noticed that it doesnt have the real problem plagueing the welding industry and so here it is, most welding companies are individualy owned and opperated by the welders themselves who have little or no business training ,or business men who have no intelligence of the welding processes . |
| Posted By: rhett tigner Posted On: Sep 2, 2003 Views: 3844 | pray for disaster earthquakes--hurricanes--hail and flying hotdogs in fish buns---steels the future---i too am proud to be a welder---ego--yep---we are the ones that keep downtowns from falling down and bridges in place---in addition to participating in the 80-90 percent gross product related to welding--- a seasoned welder should fetch 100 bux an hour and a rookie 20---breathing in fumes--the dirty image---the wear and tear on the body---come on---low level radiation turning bones to corn flakes--- welders union all the way----it has to be---we should be running things instead of scrambling to pick peanuts outta --- |
| Posted By: jim Posted On: Jul 6, 2003 Views: 3560 | welders ive been welding now for 18 years people here are saying welders are taken for grated im ex navy i kept my clean cut image and i can pass a **** test aorund here people tell me i dont look like a welder i ask emm whats one look like they say long hair in a mullet perfered burned up ragged work clothes thats what protection is for yes its a dirty job but coveralls work great who can take someone serious if they walk of the street looking like a dirt bag i see it every day at the shipyard here most welders here pass up the good work cause they cant pass i **** test when i got out of the navy the company i work for ask me in the interview could i pass a test i said shure they said **** test i said shure well they said last 10 guys couldnt |
| Posted By: Gary Goodman Posted On: Jul 1, 2003 Views: 3559 | Quality Control I have been involved in the welding industry for over thirty years. I have taught welding at the community college and have worked as inspector/QA manager on large projects. I believe that the big problem is not with just the welding community. It is with society in whole the lack of pride in the work from the contractor to the worker. The Big picture is accountability and that is taught at a young age. If people were taught more about accountability it would carry over to their work. Another issue is being the very best you can be at your job in order to contribute to the overall effort of the contractor. In any work place there should be support channels, problem resolution where one can feel like they are actually contributing to the end product. Most places it is head down don't want to hear about it just do it. |
| Posted By: Enrique Posted On: Jun 7, 2003 Views: 3458 | Taken for granted.......! I have 30 years experience as a welder,25 of those,as a maintenance welder in a electric power generation plant. It's very true!!! Your trade is taken for granted until,one of those boilers has a blown tube,small crack,or a pinhole leak.They have to stop the money making boiler off line.Then you have to go in there(in a hot ass enviroment).Fix the problem so they can go back on line and make hundreds or thousands of dollars an hour depending on the demand or price for megawatts.Meanwhile you are just a rod burner.How many of you have heard the frase "anybody can burn rod"? Yeah!!! that's why they pay high pressure pipewelders,$30 - $50 an hour....... That's not only what you have to know.You have to be a pipefitter,pipelayer,metal fabricator.You have to know how to weld Chromemoly,stainless steel,castiron,silversolder,softsolder,copper,aluminum ,etc. Know,stick,mig,tig and gas welding,(you almosts have to be a damm magician to get old things fix. Regardless of what my employers think.I'm proud of what I know and do!!! I've made good money through the years. I'm 55 years old.I think I'll be retireing this year from my present job. For a while I was thinking on doing something different for the next few years. Then I've been thinking,why through away 30 years of experience in my field.When I can help young welders in what route to take to make good money and avoid the mistakes that I made through my carrier.Their is a lot of money to be made if you make the right descission at an early age!!! Excuse my spelling........ |
| Posted By: David Posted On: Mar 5, 2003 Views: 3119 | Certification The paper that says certified is just that a piece of paper. The company that requires a certifacate doesn't realy care if you can pass a test they only care that you have it for their records. The key word here is liability, if you can bs your way through a test get your certificate then the company cuts down on liability. bottom line if you want to change things start by putting someone who wants to make a change at the top. Welders are a breed unto themselves, rebels with egos as big as texas if it was possible to take the spirit of a welder and make them conform to a dictatorship of a unoin it would already be done |
| Posted By: Thomas Jefferson Grant Posted On: Feb 5, 2003 Views: 3072 | contact me lets make it happen.Iam starting a welding union my email is thomas.grant@virtualarmory.com |
| Posted By: Thomas Jefferson Grant Posted On: Feb 5, 2003 Views: 3017 | Welders Union its time! Lets join together,We can do away with alot of the issue that plague the trade today. |
| Posted By: Old and tried Posted On: Dec 29, 2002 Views: 3021 | Dime a dozen Every welder needs to go union the rats are making us old men and then we die, upper managment say welders are a DIME A DOZEN, I was told that when I was 18 and now I still hear it and I'm 43, The only true answer is unite that has got to be it. (SPREAD THE WORD AND FOR GODS SAKE STICK TOGETHER AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) |
| Posted By: T.D.V. fabrication Posted On: Dec 21, 2002 Views: 2930 | quality work I think the problem lies in a lack of respect for the weldig field in general. I mean we are talking about one of the oldest vocations in the world. A good "smithy" used to be worth his weight in gold. I got so tired of the slip shod jobs I was asked to do by the average fab shop, that I finally started my own. I cut parts and worked a break for several years before I was allowed to even run a rod. I know reputable shops in my area that will hire a man and teach him how to weld all in the same day!!! What a JOKE. |
| Posted By: daniel sharrow Posted On: Oct 3, 2002 Views: 2876 | welding problems Managers key on formal education too much. I have weld engineers call my company for service on controls all the time. Electricians do most of the work on the plant floor but they are called upon to service every piece of eletric equipment in the shop which keeps them from knowing the controls and the applications of the controls like a true service tech. Plants are not willing to shut down a line long to do anything more than change tips unitl the line goes down. If any employers are interseted in my qualifications in relation to a position feel free to contact me. I am available for contract work if needed. |
| Posted By: Phil Evans Posted On: Sep 9, 2002 Views: 2873 | Failing welding trades 30 years in the welding business , AWS-CWI,CWE ,13 welding certifications , 2 military qualifications and 8 years with a 13 store major welding distributor [consulting to hundreds of companies] I can say without hesitation there is enough blame to go around , WELDING is no longer a skilled trades , the majority of industry is MORE concerned about quanity than quality , I've even been told to lie on inspection reports to state agencies, [I quit that job] , most tech-trade schools don't understand industrialweld manufact-uring , the instructors are not properly trained and have poor TECHNICAL knowledge , how can they properly pass on the PASSION of welding , welding is DIEING a slow death , industry and trade schools know nothing about weld economics and REAL industrial safety , HOW MANY instructors are CWE ? I really feel SORRY for the young hot shot welder that is going to set the world on fire , there isn't enough QUALITY welding positions out there for all those that really care ,There are welders working out in industry with " CERT CARDS " that have never seen a PQR or WPS , how did they get certified ? ANY home computer hacker can print those cards , I served my apprinticeship but those are a thing of the past ,What a shame , I had fun learning , still do, look in the dictionary " skilled " and "trades" and tell me what you see, is welding a SKILLED TRADES ?????? |
| Posted By: CAPNZAP Posted On: Aug 14, 2002 Views: 2774 | RESPECT Was reading some of the other posts,and it's good to see some of us still take pride in our work.I'm not here to knock anybody down,all i am saying is there is a lot of companys out there that could really care less about quality.Their idea of quality is based on how many. Taking PRIDE in your work,is no longer considered approiate,and in my opinion,has been the downfall of some of the companys I have worked for.Most of my welding career has been production welding,and in my personal opion,most supervisors in this area couldn't weld their butt with both their hands. IF you are fortunate to get asupervisor who has welding experience,they are usually told to get the job done regardless of circumstances. |
| Posted By: D.M.Libby Posted On: Jul 23, 2002 Views: 2528 | Welders Just wanted to comment on the shody work that most of the welders I worked with were proud of. I have been working metal from torch welding, arc, m.i.g., and forge since 1978, and I wouldn't let any of these guys weld a thing for me. They went to school for welding and must have slept through there classes. Not only were the welds of ungainly site, but wouldn't hold either. I think the worst of it was the politics of the shop where the new manager couldn't even weld and would try to tell me that I was doing it all wrong. He would "show" me and the peice he welded would fall apart before it made it off of the table. How do you work in such a place? |
| Posted By: nate Posted On: Jul 7, 2002 Views: 2471 | old pipefiters All you old pipefitters brag to mutch about how great you are. I am a 21 year old tool and die welder who never had any welding schooling outside of high school and would like to see any of you fix a broken piece of cast D-2 or 0-1 without it cracking again and have absolutly no pits,porossity,or slag intrusion like i do every day. Although you do make a good point of people calling themselves welders when all they do is slam parts into a robot and have to call someone to fix it because they cant. |
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