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Posted By: Daisy

Posted On: Nov 10, 2003
Views: 821
RE: THE REAL THEORY

I have a problem with anyone who equates religion with "truth." The implication being that if I don't believe in your version of God, I'm wrong. Don't like that one bit.

Despite my personal cynicism about religion, and who created what, I have a lot of respect for those who have faith--especially when they're smart enough to keep it to themselves.

BTW, we did come from monkeys.


Posted By: Iguana Turntable Ashtray

Posted On: Nov 10, 2003
Views: 820
RE: THE REAL THEORY

WTF are religious wackos doing on these here boards anyway?


Posted By: chris b

Posted On: Nov 10, 2003
Views: 819
RE: THE REAL THEORY

I hope that in hundreds or thousands of years, people can look back (assuming there are still people around) and make fun of us for carrying out war and hostility in the name of "god." All the major religions say stuff like "dont kill people," and "be nice to people." The people that are the most fanatic about religion seem to miss the most basic points.

And i bet jesus had a huge wang, but when people asked to see it, he was like, "its not that big" or whatever, or "it doesnt matter how big your wang is, its how you use it." He was humble about it, not just whipping it out at parties and yelling "look at my huge freakin wang!"


Posted By: boogs

Posted On: Nov 10, 2003
Views: 815
RE: THE REAL THEORY

No one knows how we got here or why we are here or even how long we are going to be here. Everyone has their theories and beleifs and until on of them is proven with unrebuttable facts I will just keep my mouth shut most of the time.

But if you would really like to know what I think it's that we are the equivenlant of a child's science fair project. And I'd say he's getting an A for it. Not because the world is perfect but in fact our world is a great experiment, and the fact that it is not perfect makes it even better.


Posted By: jerkface

Posted On: Nov 10, 2003
Views: 797
RE: THE REAL THEORY

So lets say that GOD is the one in charge and he made me in his own image and my monitor (even though it clearly says ViewSonic on it) and everything else.....
WEll, we are ALL majorly flawed in some way.......so what does that saw about GOD?

and the bible .....the bible claims to be flawless also but in the first freaking book genesis all you have to do is up to verse 16 and you can see it is flawed.

it says he made night and day on the first day and then he made the sun and the moon on the third day...what up wit dat yo?

any who that doesnt mean there isn't a point or we should be jerks about it.




Posted By: BlueNite

Posted On: Nov 10, 2003
Views: 794
RE: THE REAL THEORY

suzsuzie :"in the Bible it says that God was, is, and always will be. it's a hard consept to graspt. but it's the truth."

That doesn't explain to me HOW he "was, is, and always will be,” or WHERE he came from. There isn't any explanation in that concept.

And I agree COMPLETLEY with Daisy's post at the top of the page. I don’t think I should be told I’m wrong just for not believing in something you can’t prove, much less for disagreeing with an opinion.


Posted By: Daisy

Posted On: Nov 11, 2003
Views: 785
RE: THE REAL THEORY

Chris B--I bet Jesus did have a huge wang...and I'm positive that he was humble about it...he was the son of God for chrissakes, what did he have to prove. :)

I meant to mention in my other post that the problem with both science and religious fanatics is that they don't allow for the other to exist.

boogs--you're right there isn't "unrebuttable" proof for any of this...and I kinda hope there won't ever be. What would we debate about, fantasize about and look forward to if it was proven that there absolutely is or isn't an afterlife and whatnot? That is, other than sex and money...but do we really want to be that pedestrian all the time?

BlueNite--rock on


Posted By: khouri

Posted On: Nov 11, 2003
Views: 775
RE: THE REAL THEORY

Three words:
Alien
Ant
Farm

I don't know if "they" find us terribly entertaining, but I know I sure do


Posted By: corey

Posted On: Nov 11, 2003
Views: 774
RE: THE REAL THEORY

The illusions you all have of a "god" are impossible. We are here, everything else is here because of evolution. How could one god/jesus/alah/whatever, create the entire planet/universe/life? There is no way one man "god" could create everything in our existence. Maybe in your cartoon reality, sure anything is possible.

Church's these days are just another way of legally stealing money. And if you don't contribute to the church financially then you will be damned for life and burn in hell for eternity.


Don't get me started!


Posted By: Daisy

Posted On: Nov 11, 2003
Views: 768
RE: THE REAL THEORY

Corey, thank you for proving my point that Science AND Religious fanatics are totally f'd up.

How many times has science explained something only to prove itself wrong later? Not saying that evolution doesn't explain how and why we're here...just that when you totally ignore one realm of thought for another you're being ignorant. Your evolution only deal is just as simple-minded as someone who thinks some mysterious being named God built the world and everything in it.



Posted By: TheDuke

Posted On: Nov 11, 2003
Views: 764
RE: THE REAL THEORY

If Jesus had a big wang, why hasn't some christian group sung about it? This is a relevant topic I think that everyone would like to know about...you could get some creative lyrics:
"Kneel down in the shadow of His son,
his wang blocks out the temptations that surround me."


Posted By: james

Posted On: Nov 11, 2003
Views: 753
RE: THE REAL THEORY

dont get ya panties in a bundle...''seriously'' how could the big bang create us all...

i got tired after reading the first 3 replies, but reply what religion you are and how you think the world was created


Posted By: Poster Joe

Posted On: Nov 11, 2003
Views: 747
RE: THE REAL THEORY

okay, first off:

1. Everything that had a beginning had a cause.
2. The universe had a beginning.
3. Therefore, the universe had a cause.

That shows that the universe had a cause and a beginning.

Secondly,

1. Whatever exists, but can/could not exist needs a cause for its existence.
2. Nothing cannot produce something.
3. Therefore, something necessarily exists as the ground for everything that does exist but also can not exist.

This means, whatever exists that also could not exist (like us or the universe, we exist, but its possible for us not to exist), has to have something to make us exist, otherwise there would be nothing.

1. If everything were contingent (able to not exist), then it would be possible that nothing existed.
2. Something does exist (I know I do).
3. So, if something contingent (able to not exist) like me exists right now, than something else must exist that is impossible for it to not exist.

So, since we have the possibility of not existing, along with everything else in the universe, there must be something that cant NOT exist (God) in order for us to be here.

Here's another one:

1. All designs imply a designer.
2. There is great design in the universe.
3. Therefore, there must have been a Great Designer of the universe.

Or this one:

1. If God exists, we must concieve of Him as not being able to NOT exist (like us).
2. So, because it is impossible for God to not exist, he must exist.

Or this:

1. Moral law implies a moral law giver.
2. There is an objective moral law.
3. Therefore, there is an objective law giver (God).


Posted By: I love evolution

Posted On: Nov 11, 2003
Views: 746
RE: THE REAL THEORY

This is for all you who believe that evolution is real, and not just a theory:

First off, everything must have a cause.

So,

What caused evolution? Most say the Big Bang. But what caused the Big Bang? The particles floating around or whatever, right? Well what caused those particles?

the big bang makes no sense, neither does evolution. Saying the Big Bang is true is like trying to jump out of a bottomless pit.

The only way for all this to exist is for a Beginner to begin all of this. (i.e. GOD)


Posted By: Martian Molly

Posted On: Nov 11, 2003
Views: 740
RE: THE REAL THEORY

Ok, put away the logic textbook. You don't really understand it anyway.


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