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Posted By: SHERIFF OFFICER

Posted On: Sep 26, 2008
Views: 759
JAIL MANAGEMENT

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Posted By: TIMMY

Posted On: Sep 18, 2008
Views: 747
ECSD CRIMINAL ACTS

http://stophoward2009.blogspot.com/2008/09/tony-vick.html


Posted By: Buy warhammer gold

Posted On: Sep 17, 2008
Views: 887
ECSD Deputy Rapes Female inmate

Sheriff’s deputy resigns after sex abuse charge

An Erie County sheriff’s deputy has resigned his position after being accused of inappropriate contact with a 34-year-old female inmate at Erie County Correctional Facility in Alden.

Deputy Anthony Vick, a six-year veteran of the department, has been charged with second-degree sexual abuse, a misdemeanor, sheriff’s officials said. Vick was arrested Monday night.

WHO WAS HIS PARTNER IN THE HOUSING UNIT ?






Posted By: wozuiniu

Posted On: Sep 3, 2008
Views: 885
ECSD Jail, HEALTH, JUSTICE DEPT.

ECSD 1 Million $ INMATE
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Posted By: Joe

Posted On: 8 days ago
Views: 19
Sheriff's 1 million dollar inmate
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August 10, 2008


COUNTY EXECUTIVE CHRIS COLLINS

County Executive Chris Collins has barred the feds from the lockups and from the Juvenile Detention Center on the advice of the county attorney.

Faced with a showdown with federal inspectors who want to tour the county Correctional Facility in Alden and county Holding Center; focusing on the health care and mental health care the facilities provide.
County Attorney Cheryl A. Green for her part says the Justice Department uses such inquiries to force Counties to provide a level of health care for prisoners and inmates “far greater than what the typical Erie County taxpayer has available to them.”

US Justice Department Special Litigation Section, Shanetta Y. Cutlar: “Failure to cooperate will not halt our investigation,” She threatened a lawsuit and warned of the “negative inferences” taken from the Collins position.

Obviously not an issue faced by Collins in the "private sector."

So with this in mind a PoliticsNY.Net reporter interviewed Collins on a number of issues Friday.

by Staff



Capital borrowing is still up in the air, contracts with eight unions are still unsettled, and the control board remains "hard" in its oversight role. But despite all of that, Erie County Executive Chris Collins is staying true to his goals of reforming county government and cutting taxes, and perhaps his most pressing aim right now is to move the oversight panel into an advisory role by the end of the year.

"I don’t think the downstate governor (Paterson) got very good advice," says Collins in describing the governor’s statement that he would veto the legislation that would have allowed the county to do its own borrowing without assistance from the control board, a step in loosening the oversight panel’s control over county finances.


The first-year county executive says there was a big difference between the two bills before Gov. Patterson, one to soften the city’s control board and the second to allow the county to do its own capital borrowing.


"I would have hoped that he would have seen the difference," said Collins. "The county bill was nothing more than clarifying that as long as we [the county] had investment grade, we could do our own borrowing. We lobbied him; it was a bipartisan effort but I don’t think he got very good advice."


Collins says the veto, if it happens, has left the county’s borrowing for capital projects "up in the air."


"We’ve agreed that one or the other (county or control board) will do a 12-month bond anticipation note for capital borrowing and the comptroller (Mark Poloncarz) it out there with RFPs," said Collins. "But the problem is, if we still have a hard control board in 12 months, who would do the 30-year borrowing to pay off the (approximately $50 million) BAN."


Collins hopes the status of the control board will become clear after he submits his budget and four-year plan in October, but in the meantime the borrowing is up in the air.


"It is a mess," Collins says. " I am personally encouraging the comptroller to release money for road projects [out of the general fund] but he’s concerned about cash flow. It is a shame the governor said he would veto the legislation. What he’s done is jeopardize all our capital projects, union jobs, and it is counter to what every elected official wanted."


The RFPs by Comptroller Poloncarz are due back Aug. 15 and it is unclear what will happen at that point, even to the county executive.


As for editorial opinion that he’s at odds with the control board, Collins says: "They [the control board] have supported every one of my positions except the borrowing." He ticked off the panel’s support for his Six Sigma initiative, space utilization plan, personnel requests, and reorganization. "I would ask rhetorically, what are their stands that have helped? And their borrowing stand has jeopardized critical county projects."


Collins is hopeful that his balanced four-year plan will move the control board into a "soft" mode by the end of the year and that the county will be able to make a case within three years to dissolve the board completely, one a fund balance of 5 percent of operating budget is in place.


On the labor front, Collins says he is negotiating with some of the unions, namely AFSME & the CSEA, but "we’re still miles apart. I’m looking at some major restructuring, especially with retirement health care, current health care co-pays, and time off. Right now the unions have 16 weeks off a year. I’ve tried to negotiate but they are looking at small steps," adding he wants big changes.


On the positive side, Collins says his bottom-up Six Sigma approach is paying off with nine green belts already at work running projects that he estimates will save the county well over $1 million a year.

"I’m very happy [with Six Sigma], and a lot of them are union employees," he says. "And we’ll be launching more projects soon."


As for the downsizing movement among some members of the legislature, Collins says he is in support of the early plan that would reduce the size of the legislature from 15 to 9 members. But he also expressed strong support for Legislature Chairman Lynn Marinelli’s commission to study the issue and says he believes that whether this year or in a year or two, downsizing will go before the voters and they will support it.


On the state’s fiscal woes, Collins suggested it is the state that needs a control board.


"They are in some serious trouble," says Collins alluding to the revenue shortfall from Wall Street, but quickly adding that the troubles have been years in the making.


"They [Albany] have been out of control forever, spending at double and triple the rate of inflation, and it has come home to roost. They have been spendaholics and they will have to learn to tighten their belts."






Posted By: Tim

Posted On: Aug 23, 2008
Views: 891
ECSD 1 Million $ INMATE

Posted By: Joe

Posted On: 8 days ago
Views: 19
Sheriff's 1 million dollar inmate
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August 10, 2008


COUNTY EXECUTIVE CHRIS COLLINS

County Executive Chris Collins has barred the feds from the lockups and from the Juvenile Detention Center on the advice of the county attorney.

Faced with a showdown with federal inspectors who want to tour the county Correctional Facility in Alden and county Holding Center; focusing on the health care and mental health care the facilities provide.
County Attorney Cheryl A. Green for her part says the Justice Department uses such inquiries to force Counties to provide a level of health care for prisoners and inmates “far greater than what the typical Erie County taxpayer has available to them.”

US Justice Department Special Litigation Section, Shanetta Y. Cutlar: “Failure to cooperate will not halt our investigation,” She threatened a lawsuit and warned of the “negative inferences” taken from the Collins position.

Obviously not an issue faced by Collins in the "private sector."

So with this in mind a PoliticsNY.Net reporter interviewed Collins on a number of issues Friday.

by Staff



Capital borrowing is still up in the air, contracts with eight unions are still unsettled, and the control board remains "hard" in its oversight role. But despite all of that, Erie County Executive Chris Collins is staying true to his goals of reforming county government and cutting taxes, and perhaps his most pressing aim right now is to move the oversight panel into an advisory role by the end of the year.

"I don’t think the downstate governor (Paterson) got very good advice," says Collins in describing the governor’s statement that he would veto the legislation that would have allowed the county to do its own borrowing without assistance from the control board, a step in loosening the oversight panel’s control over county finances.


The first-year county executive says there was a big difference between the two bills before Gov. Patterson, one to soften the city’s control board and the second to allow the county to do its own capital borrowing.


"I would have hoped that he would have seen the difference," said Collins. "The county bill was nothing more than clarifying that as long as we [the county] had investment grade, we could do our own borrowing. We lobbied him; it was a bipartisan effort but I don’t think he got very good advice."


Collins says the veto, if it happens, has left the county’s borrowing for capital projects "up in the air."


"We’ve agreed that one or the other (county or control board) will do a 12-month bond anticipation note for capital borrowing and the comptroller (Mark Poloncarz) it out there with RFPs," said Collins. "But the problem is, if we still have a hard control board in 12 months, who would do the 30-year borrowing to pay off the (approximately $50 million) BAN."


Collins hopes the status of the control board will become clear after he submits his budget and four-year plan in October, but in the meantime the borrowing is up in the air.


"It is a mess," Collins says. " I am personally encouraging the comptroller to release money for road projects [out of the general fund] but he’s concerned about cash flow. It is a shame the governor said he would veto the legislation. What he’s done is jeopardize all our capital projects, union jobs, and it is counter to what every elected official wanted."


The RFPs by Comptroller Poloncarz are due back Aug. 15 and it is unclear what will happen at that point, even to the county executive.


As for editorial opinion that he’s at odds with the control board, Collins says: "They [the control board] have supported every one of my positions except the borrowing." He ticked off the panel’s support for his Six Sigma initiative, space utilization plan, personnel requests, and reorganization. "I would ask rhetorically, what are their stands that have helped? And their borrowing stand has jeopardized critical county projects."


Collins is hopeful that his balanced four-year plan will move the control board into a "soft" mode by the end of the year and that the county will be able to make a case within three years to dissolve the board completely, one a fund balance of 5 percent of operating budget is in place.


On the labor front, Collins says he is negotiating with some of the unions, namely AFSME & the CSEA, but "we’re still miles apart. I’m looking at some major restructuring, especially with retirement health care, current health care co-pays, and time off. Right now the unions have 16 weeks off a year. I’ve tried to negotiate but they are looking at small steps," adding he wants big changes.


On the positive side, Collins says his bottom-up Six Sigma approach is paying off with nine green belts already at work running projects that he estimates will save the county well over $1 million a year.

"I’m very happy [with Six Sigma], and a lot of them are union employees," he says. "And we’ll be launching more projects soon."


As for the downsizing movement among some members of the legislature, Collins says he is in support of the early plan that would reduce the size of the legislature from 15 to 9 members. But he also expressed strong support for Legislature Chairman Lynn Marinelli’s commission to study the issue and says he believes that whether this year or in a year or two, downsizing will go before the voters and they will support it.


On the state’s fiscal woes, Collins suggested it is the state that needs a control board.


"They are in some serious trouble," says Collins alluding to the revenue shortfall from Wall Street, but quickly adding that the troubles have been years in the making.


"They [Albany] have been out of control forever, spending at double and triple the rate of inflation, and it has come home to roost. They have been spendaholics and they will have to learn to tighten their belts."




Posted By: Joe

Posted On: Aug 15, 2008
Views: 857
Sheriff's 1 million dollar inmate


August 10, 2008


COUNTY EXECUTIVE CHRIS COLLINS

County Executive Chris Collins has barred the feds from the lockups and from the Juvenile Detention Center on the advice of the county attorney.

Faced with a showdown with federal inspectors who want to tour the county Correctional Facility in Alden and county Holding Center; focusing on the health care and mental health care the facilities provide.
County Attorney Cheryl A. Green for her part says the Justice Department uses such inquiries to force Counties to provide a level of health care for prisoners and inmates “far greater than what the typical Erie County taxpayer has available to them.”

US Justice Department Special Litigation Section, Shanetta Y. Cutlar: “Failure to cooperate will not halt our investigation,” She threatened a lawsuit and warned of the “negative inferences” taken from the Collins position.

Obviously not an issue faced by Collins in the "private sector."

So with this in mind a PoliticsNY.Net reporter interviewed Collins on a number of issues Friday.

by Staff



Capital borrowing is still up in the air, contracts with eight unions are still unsettled, and the control board remains "hard" in its oversight role. But despite all of that, Erie County Executive Chris Collins is staying true to his goals of reforming county government and cutting taxes, and perhaps his most pressing aim right now is to move the oversight panel into an advisory role by the end of the year.

"I don’t think the downstate governor (Paterson) got very good advice," says Collins in describing the governor’s statement that he would veto the legislation that would have allowed the county to do its own borrowing without assistance from the control board, a step in loosening the oversight panel’s control over county finances.


The first-year county executive says there was a big difference between the two bills before Gov. Patterson, one to soften the city’s control board and the second to allow the county to do its own capital borrowing.


"I would have hoped that he would have seen the difference," said Collins. "The county bill was nothing more than clarifying that as long as we [the county] had investment grade, we could do our own borrowing. We lobbied him; it was a bipartisan effort but I don’t think he got very good advice."


Collins says the veto, if it happens, has left the county’s borrowing for capital projects "up in the air."


"We’ve agreed that one or the other (county or control board) will do a 12-month bond anticipation note for capital borrowing and the comptroller (Mark Poloncarz) it out there with RFPs," said Collins. "But the problem is, if we still have a hard control board in 12 months, who would do the 30-year borrowing to pay off the (approximately $50 million) BAN."


Collins hopes the status of the control board will become clear after he submits his budget and four-year plan in October, but in the meantime the borrowing is up in the air.


"It is a mess," Collins says. " I am personally encouraging the comptroller to release money for road projects [out of the general fund] but he’s concerned about cash flow. It is a shame the governor said he would veto the legislation. What he’s done is jeopardize all our capital projects, union jobs, and it is counter to what every elected official wanted."


The RFPs by Comptroller Poloncarz are due back Aug. 15 and it is unclear what will happen at that point, even to the county executive.


As for editorial opinion that he’s at odds with the control board, Collins says: "They [the control board] have supported every one of my positions except the borrowing." He ticked off the panel’s support for his Six Sigma initiative, space utilization plan, personnel requests, and reorganization. "I would ask rhetorically, what are their stands that have helped? And their borrowing stand has jeopardized critical county projects."


Collins is hopeful that his balanced four-year plan will move the control board into a "soft" mode by the end of the year and that the county will be able to make a case within three years to dissolve the board completely, one a fund balance of 5 percent of operating budget is in place.


On the labor front, Collins says he is negotiating with some of the unions, namely AFSME & the CSEA, but "we’re still miles apart. I’m looking at some major restructuring, especially with retirement health care, current health care co-pays, and time off. Right now the unions have 16 weeks off a year. I’ve tried to negotiate but they are looking at small steps," adding he wants big changes.


On the positive side, Collins says his bottom-up Six Sigma approach is paying off with nine green belts already at work running projects that he estimates will save the county well over $1 million a year.

"I’m very happy [with Six Sigma], and a lot of them are union employees," he says. "And we’ll be launching more projects soon."


As for the downsizing movement among some members of the legislature, Collins says he is in support of the early plan that would reduce the size of the legislature from 15 to 9 members. But he also expressed strong support for Legislature Chairman Lynn Marinelli’s commission to study the issue and says he believes that whether this year or in a year or two, downsizing will go before the voters and they will support it.


On the state’s fiscal woes, Collins suggested it is the state that needs a control board.


"They are in some serious trouble," says Collins alluding to the revenue shortfall from Wall Street, but quickly adding that the troubles have been years in the making.


"They [Albany] have been out of control forever, spending at double and triple the rate of inflation, and it has come home to roost. They have been spendaholics and they will have to learn to tighten their belts."










Posted By: Ron W

Posted On: Aug 7, 2008
Views: 871
Sheriffs dept.

Posted By: Brian

Posted On: 7 days ago
Views: 32
ECCF In Alden, ECHC overflow
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Boy what a joke it is to see the Captain of the County Correctional Facility sporting his gold badge on his belt. You'd think he was guarding a large crime scene out in Alden NY. I respect the men and woman in the uniform, but c'mon, to see a Jail Guard Captain, wanna bee, dressed like a COP makes the public want to puke. POLICE and JAIL CAPTAINS have much different responsibilities. Jail Captains push paper behind a desk and act like they mean everything. Real POLICE Captains have tons of Responsibilities, including writing speeding tickets, etc...


Posted By: CSEA 815. Nigrelli for Sheriff in 09

Posted On: 9 days ago
Views: 35
Management right, YOU'll never get it
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Posted By: Leadfoot

Posted On: 3 days ago
Views: 9
Sheriff's cars they all take em home
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Posted By: Dependz

Posted On: Mar 17
Views: 29
Sheriff Tim Howard
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too little too late. howard obviously is either to blind or just doesn't care. if by some miracle he actually reads this, or hears of it :

sheriff howard, we the officers at eccf have zero confidence in the abilities of captain bienko. he makes spiteful decisions and shows definite favoritism - the kind that may end up with you being named in a federal lawsuit - towards certain staff, and bias against others. security is secondary at the jail the nyscoc called the 'worst run' in the state. is that something you want to be associated with ? don't be fooled by the fake good reports that your flunkies send you - there are serious problems with the people that have been put in power at eccf. how about you meet with a panel of officers off the record ? no livingston, doyle or bienko - just you and some officers to let you in on the real goings-on. it's not too late to turn things around. think about it.









Posted By: Brian

Posted On: Jul 30, 2008
Views: 893
ECCF In Alden, ECHC overflow

Boy what a joke it is to see the Captain of the County Correctional Facility sporting his gold badge on his belt. You'd think he was guarding a large crime scene out in Alden NY. I respect the men and woman in the uniform, but c'mon, to see a Jail Guard Captain, wanna bee, dressed like a COP makes the public want to puke. POLICE and JAIL CAPTAINS have much different responsibilities. Jail Captains push paper behind a desk and act like they mean everything. Real POLICE Captains have tons of Responsibilities, including writing speeding tickets, etc...


Posted By: CSEA 815. Nigrelli for Sheriff in 09

Posted On: Jul 28, 2008
Views: 895
Management right, YOU'll never get it

Posted By: Leadfoot

Posted On: 3 days ago
Views: 9
Sheriff's cars they all take em home
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Posted By: Dependz

Posted On: Mar 17
Views: 29
Sheriff Tim Howard
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too little too late. howard obviously is either to blind or just doesn't care. if by some miracle he actually reads this, or hears of it :

sheriff howard, we the officers at eccf have zero confidence in the abilities of captain bienko. he makes spiteful decisions and shows definite favoritism - the kind that may end up with you being named in a federal lawsuit - towards certain staff, and bias against others. security is secondary at the jail the nyscoc called the 'worst run' in the state. is that something you want to be associated with ? don't be fooled by the fake good reports that your flunkies send you - there are serious problems with the people that have been put in power at eccf. how about you meet with a panel of officers off the record ? no livingston, doyle or bienko - just you and some officers to let you in on the real goings-on. it's not too late to turn things around. think about it.








Posted By: Leadfoot

Posted On: Jul 25, 2008
Views: 892
Sheriff's cars they all take em home

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Posted By: Dependz

Posted On: Mar 17
Views: 29
Sheriff Tim Howard
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too little too late. howard obviously is either to blind or just doesn't care. if by some miracle he actually reads this, or hears of it :

sheriff howard, we the officers at eccf have zero confidence in the abilities of captain bienko. he makes spiteful decisions and shows definite favoritism - the kind that may end up with you being named in a federal lawsuit - towards certain staff, and bias against others. security is secondary at the jail the nyscoc called the 'worst run' in the state. is that something you want to be associated with ? don't be fooled by the fake good reports that your flunkies send you - there are serious problems with the people that have been put in power at eccf. how about you meet with a panel of officers off the record ? no livingston, doyle or bienko - just you and some officers to let you in on the real goings-on. it's not too late to turn things around. think about it.






Posted By: Jeff f

Posted On: Jul 18, 2008
Views: 885
Sheriff's Jail

Posted By: Take that

Posted On: 3 days ago
Views: 6
Sheriff's dept.
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Posted By: SHERIFFS DEPT.

Posted On: 10 days ago
Views: 10
PLEASE READ
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Posted By: DEPENDS

Posted On: May 16
Views: 33
ECSD JMD ALDEN
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Posted By: Dependz

Posted On: Mar 17
Views: 29
Sheriff Tim Howard
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too little too late. howard obviously is either to blind or just doesn't care. if by some miracle he actually reads this, or hears of it :

sheriff howard, we the officers at eccf have zero confidence in the abilities of captain bienko. he makes spiteful decisions and shows definite favoritism - the kind that may end up with you being named in a federal lawsuit - towards certain staff, and bias against others. security is secondary at the jail the nyscoc called the 'worst run' in the state. is that something you want to be associated with ? don't be fooled by the fake good reports that your flunkies send you - there are serious problems with the people that have been put in power at eccf. how about you meet with a panel of officers off the record ? no livingston, doyle or bienko - just you and some officers to let you in on the real goings-on. it's not too late to turn things around. think about it.





Posted By: Take that

Posted On: Jul 14, 2008
Views: 856
Sheriff's dept.

Posted By: SHERIFFS DEPT.

Posted On: 10 days ago
Views: 10
PLEASE READ
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Posted By: DEPENDS

Posted On: May 16
Views: 33
ECSD JMD ALDEN
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Posted By: Dependz

Posted On: Mar 17
Views: 29
Sheriff Tim Howard
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too little too late. howard obviously is either to blind or just doesn't care. if by some miracle he actually reads this, or hears of it :

sheriff howard, we the officers at eccf have zero confidence in the abilities of captain bienko. he makes spiteful decisions and shows definite favoritism - the kind that may end up with you being named in a federal lawsuit - towards certain staff, and bias against others. security is secondary at the jail the nyscoc called the 'worst run' in the state. is that something you want to be associated with ? don't be fooled by the fake good reports that your flunkies send you - there are serious problems with the people that have been put in power at eccf. how about you meet with a panel of officers off the record ? no livingston, doyle or bienko - just you and some officers to let you in on the real goings-on. it's not too late to turn things around. think about it.





Posted By: SHERIFFS DEPT.

Posted On: Jul 4, 2008
Views: 849
PLEASE READ

Posted By: DEPENDS

Posted On: May 16
Views: 33
ECSD JMD ALDEN
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Posted By: Dependz

Posted On: Mar 17
Views: 29
Sheriff Tim Howard
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too little too late. howard obviously is either to blind or just doesn't care. if by some miracle he actually reads this, or hears of it :

sheriff howard, we the officers at eccf have zero confidence in the abilities of captain bienko. he makes spiteful decisions and shows definite favoritism - the kind that may end up with you being named in a federal lawsuit - towards certain staff, and bias against others. security is secondary at the jail the nyscoc called the 'worst run' in the state. is that something you want to be associated with ? don't be fooled by the fake good reports that your flunkies send you - there are serious problems with the people that have been put in power at eccf. how about you meet with a panel of officers off the record ? no livingston, doyle or bienko - just you and some officers to let you in on the real goings-on. it's not too late to turn things around. think about it.



Posted By: DEPENDS

Posted On: May 16, 2008
Views: 849
ECSD JMD ALDEN

Posted By: Dependz

Posted On: Mar 17
Views: 29
Sheriff Tim Howard
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too little too late. howard obviously is either to blind or just doesn't care. if by some miracle he actually reads this, or hears of it :

sheriff howard, we the officers at eccf have zero confidence in the abilities of captain bienko. he makes spiteful decisions and shows definite favoritism - the kind that may end up with you being named in a federal lawsuit - towards certain staff, and bias against others. security is secondary at the jail the nyscoc called the 'worst run' in the state. is that something you want to be associated with ? don't be fooled by the fake good reports that your flunkies send you - there are serious problems with the people that have been put in power at eccf. how about you meet with a panel of officers off the record ? no livingston, doyle or bienko - just you and some officers to let you in on the real goings-on. it's not too late to turn things around. think about it.


Posted By: Dependz

Posted On: Mar 17, 2008
Views: 865
Sheriff Tim Howard

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too little too late. howard obviously is either to blind or just doesn't care. if by some miracle he actually reads this, or hears of it :

sheriff howard, we the officers at eccf have zero confidence in the abilities of captain bienko. he makes spiteful decisions and shows definite favoritism - the kind that may end up with you being named in a federal lawsuit - towards certain staff, and bias against others. security is secondary at the jail the nyscoc called the 'worst run' in the state. is that something you want to be associated with ? don't be fooled by the fake good reports that your flunkies send you - there are serious problems with the people that have been put in power at eccf. how about you meet with a panel of officers off the record ? no livingston, doyle or bienko - just you and some officers to let you in on the real goings-on. it's not too late to turn things around. think about it.


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