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| Posted By: Peter Flack Posted On: Jun 15, 2005 Views: 711 | RE: Let's put the record straight This tree "thing" is a metaphoric comparison to this TK "thing",that you Mr.Mayes (if that is you) says does not exist. The "bogging" down is something you should have anticipated would happen here. "Whether anyone is around to hear it or not, doesn't make any difference. The noise exists.". Mr. Mayes, was it not you whom said that TK did not exist? The main idea is to point out that just because there is no evidence, does not mean there is non-existence. This is your case you started. If you didn't like the metaphor, I have many metaphors to use. We can all start over again in the new topic area, with the absolute certainty that there will be something purposefully accomplished. Until we can all figure out whether or not you are the true Keith Mayes, of course, that is the ultimate "bogging" for which I still maintain on other segments. -------- Define the word "Let's" -- who is the 'us'? I am convinced that from the opening page after all has been written down, that not once had it been said that telekinesis does not exist. So put the record straight. Is it Keith Mayes from the opening page here, or Keith Mayes ( the imposter )? Is that "us"? The 'both' of you? |
| Posted By: Zack Posted On: Jun 17, 2005 Views: 700 | RE: Let's put the record straight Keith Noise and Sound are two different things Keith. Sound is a viberation that is picked up by a human organ, beit the ears. Noise is an unpleasent sound. The word sound means, a human must be there to hear it. Yes, there is the theory, a bouncing ball never stops bouncing. Or, viberations never end in their travels. One hundred 'sound' years out, you can probably hear what happened back in the past. And pick up a black and white television station. But, sound is not the general definition of 'viberation'. > Sound > Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing. Tree falls? We cannot hear it. Therefore it doesnt make a sound. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 18, 2005 Views: 696 | RE: Let's put the record straight Zak, You said "Noise is an unpleasent sound. The word sound means, a human must be there to hear it." I disagree with your statement. A sound, or noise - there is no difference, is how you described it, sound is vibrations. The vibrations will be there regardless if anyone is there to hear them. What makes you think the word sound means a human must be there to hear it? Sound can be produced at a frequency that will shatter glass. What you are saying seems to suggest that if no one is in the sound chamber to hear it then the glass will not shatter? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 18, 2005 Views: 695 | RE: Let's put the record straight Peter, I appreciate the use of your metaphor with the tree. However, my point is this, and always has been. I cannot prove that TK does not exist just because it has not been demonstrated. That is not the point. Any person making a claim about something unusual they claim to be able to do cannot possibly be expected to be believed until they have demonstrated it. My example of claiming to be able to walk on water for instance. I could go on and on about it non stop, my being able to walk on water, but would you believe me? Somehow I doubt it. Why then do those that purport to have TK express surprise that I do not believe them? If we were to believe every unusual claim made, without any supporting evidence whatsoever, then we would live in a very strange and unrealistic world. PS. Every coment on this site that claims to be me, is me. I remove the imposters. |
| Posted By: Peter Flack Posted On: Jun 18, 2005 Views: 686 | RE: Let's put the record straight Please refer to the current segment, the "Tree". If there is power enough to close this segment, because of the words I have submitted there - this segment deserves to be closed. |
| Posted By: Peter Flack Posted On: Jun 18, 2005 Views: 685 | RE: Let's put the record straight "FLAK" is a persons last name following Peter, I know because there about a dozen or so in New England with my name, in both pronounciation and spelling.**** and *****. So the middle name counts, **** doesn't. **** is not easy when someone "gives" it to you, when IT IS not a last name. In zero degrees, in between light and dark. Nor in timeless knowledge, or endless harmony. |
| Posted By: Peter Flack Posted On: Jun 18, 2005 Views: 684 | RE: Let's put the record straight Close the door in here, it's too c*o*l*d* and too d*a*r*k*. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 18, 2005 Views: 682 | RE: Let's put the record straight What medication are you on? |
| Posted By: Peter Flack Posted On: Jun 21, 2005 Views: 674 | RE: Let's put the record straight Well, for the record, you havent managed to really defend your words "TK is a load of ****". I think it is a really cold, dark, misunderstanding of TK that you have there. What is ****? A medication I don't know about? Should I take it? You certainly cannot give it to me can you? What about your name? I can use my name, can you? Are you just being shy about one thing like **** and you can't help but be two people? You never really "claimed" who you were on this site yet have you? I never did know that unless I missed it. Can you use the words " I claim to be Keith Mayes.", and seriously not contradict anything? Let's put the record straight. One thing is for certain, if Keith Mayes on the opening page had at least said he would get a word in or two, there may not be this problem. He didn't really say that though. What category in "yes","no", or "I don't know" are you in? Please don't just enlighten me, enlighten us all. Medicated or not. I have a 4th section, don't be shy. Maybe I am not alone. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 25, 2005 Views: 665 | RE: Let's put the record straight I claim to be Keith Mayes |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 26, 2005 Views: 663 | RE: Let's put the record straight So do I |
| Posted By: Peter Flack Posted On: Jun 28, 2005 Views: 659 | RE: Let's put the record straight What is your middle name? Or is that too personal? Extra-ordinary claims require extra-ordinary proof. One may not wish to take your word for it. One may have to without any choice. |
| Posted By: Peter Flack Posted On: Jun 28, 2005 Views: 658 | RE: Let's put the record straight Shall I, ........(whats that word I'm looking for.....) consider "The Duel" metaphor again? I know, I withdrew that issue. But, it is a duel between the blind and the deaf. The genius and the fool. The "one" stuck in the middle. One person as the other, has to take ten paces and then turn around and fire. One is blindfolded, and the other has earplugs. Not exactly "blind", not exactly "deaf". Either way, neither has a real good idea about where the other is. One must understand that to turn around and fire, you rely on senses that tell you that there is no one in the center. You can still probably hear a gunshot with earplugs. But it would be too late. If they shot you before you could "see" them. You can probably cheat and take the blindfold off, and the other would shoot you while you are fumbling with the blindfold. It is as always, as the rule goes, ten paces. Whether one likes it or not. All we do know is that between genius and fool, there really shouldn't be someone sneaking into the "center". They will, if they do get caught there, surely lose the "duel". |
| Posted By: Peter Flack Posted On: Jun 28, 2005 Views: 656 | RE: Let's put the record straight I do not claim that I am Peter Flack. Not to anyone. I am Peter James Flack. This is not a claim, this is reality. |
| Posted By: Peter Flack Posted On: Jun 29, 2005 Views: 652 | RE: Let's put the record straight Do you know how "strange" the world is that you live in Keith? It is as strange as the realistic one you cannot claim is unrealistic. If you cannot demonstrate anything, you cannot claim anything relating to the demonstration. What exists, simply exists, strange or not. Nothing unrealistic is pointed out so clearly as the expectancy of beleiving someone when they claim to have the TK. As strange as it sounds, it is unrealistic to have any beleif system considered, before a claim. If you say TK doesn't exist, based purely upon the lack of evidence and the demonstrative, you are living in an unrealistic view of a strange world. Open your mind. |
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