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Posted By: Pravin Sinha

Posted On: Feb 7, 2004
Views: 734
A small correction in Mr. Prabhat's Posting

Please read "Neetish Kumar" as "Nitish Kumar".

Thanks Mr. Prabhat for so genuine and realistic posting.


Posted By: prabhat

Posted On: Feb 7, 2004
Views: 737
further continuing Kumar

Dear friends,
Mr.Kumar has told the ground truith and anyone who deny this is simply talking impracticle.

But, in continuation to his posting i would like to say that Not Every reality are pleasing as is there in Bihar. When He(Laloo Prasad) came to the power,he was the hope for the downtroddens and backwards for the change in brighter side as he was one of them who had felt the same situation. And a period of 13 year seems to be more than enough to retore the self respect and also the prosperity to the State.But the things has gone opposite.In fact, He was the person who could have done any major change that needs political support because he was having 2/3rd majority in the House.But, All went in vain!

Not only the misrule, he has contributed a very wrong practice to grab the power and thats why he throned Rabri as CM. Although there was nothing wrong consitutionally; It was a humiliating step in itself as far as dignity of post is concerned.
You might be having the rememberance when there was the 15th August celebration in Gandhi Maidan and she has to deliver a Radio messege. But she hardly spelled "SWATANTRATA DIWAS" after a big effort of 30minute practicised with the help of AIR personals.Just leave her ignorance; you can think at one point.Laloo Prasad must be having more than 20 years of married life but he was unable to know that his wife cann't spell the key words of democracy like Swatantrata or Gantantra.and later that lady was enthoned to lead the democracy!Shameful.And the height of issue remained that Non of the MLA of Minister in the Cabinet(There is minister from every sects and casts) made any revolted anytime aginst he regime.So disciplined is the Party and obidient is the leaders.

Concluding to my opinion for the long rule of self-pride, i would like to say that Good Hopes never fades away and so is Neetish Kumar.He is man of good vision.There are others also.In politics, a state can get prosperity only when there is regular shift of power otherwise there will not be chance to move ahead with the pace of outer world.
I hope you will agree with my view


Posted By: Kumar

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 655
Political Communication - Laloo Style

Mr Rajesh/Pravin/Verma.
Pl. Stop this childish behaviour. Do Some positive contribution to this form.

Personally me or many people do not like Laloo Yadav due to his poor governance, criminalization of politics and lack of development work in his tenure. But inspite of all bad thing, accept it or not he is the most popular Bihari figure in the post independence period.

In fact there is an unique chemistry between Laloo Yadav and the people of Bihar. It is not quite like S M Krishna, J Jaylalitha, Sheela Dixit and their electorates. One can easily identify the language Laloo speaks with that spoken by the masses in Bihar. He can teach the modern day politicians a lesson or two in political communication. A written replica of his oral skills is next to impossible, and he is using the visual medium to reinforce his ingenuity. While the rest of the country laughs at his histrionics, the people of Bihar get the reassurance that he hasn't changed a bit.

While Laloo has his priorities well defined, his constituents go by a simple logic. "If the forward caste rulers looted the state's exchequer for years, why cant Hamar Laloo do the same?". Similar is the logic for using choppers. "Why can't I ride a helicopter? Is it meant only for the forward castes?" The sarcasm also extends to the lack of infrastructure. "For whom should roads be built? How many of us have Marutis?" Absurd as they may sound, but look at them from the perspective of those who have been repressed for centuries, and anguish and revolt is discernible. For these people the 13 years of Laloo rule is only a step in the direction of restoring their self pride. Whether they want more remains to be seen.


Posted By: Rajesh

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 650
A.K. Verma

My opinion about A.K.Verma differs from Pravin. At least he is honest and showed off his prejudice right away. We are better off with people like Verma than many other who express good intention and conspire when in back.


Posted By: Pravin Sinha

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 642
A K Verma

Everyone is human being out here. I never said any thing to you before. I never commented on you before for any thing. God knows where from you came and just going with your habbit you wrote comment on me like

"We should include Hello and Hello's brother & Father together with Rajesh and Pravin. These are all GREAT FAN OF LALOOA AND SO BELONG TOGETHER.

Note! "DONOT PAY ATTENTION AND WASTE YOUR VALUABLE TIME IN THE DISCUSSION WITH THESE USELESS, GOOD FOR NOTHING CREATURES"."

Boss, if you behave like this then no one is going to listen to you. VermaJi you have not seen the world and if you continue doing like this you will start facing some real threat in your life. Be aware.


Posted By: Verma

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 630
Singh

See the reaction, we r too a humanbieng and deserve to show, insteed u should sit at home, now time has gone for people like u, enjoyed a lot.



Posted By: Pravin Sinha

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 632
A K Verma

Listen Chamaeleon, stop changing your colors. Do one thing, wear some bangles and sit inside your home. This is what you can be better suited to your forward mentality.


Posted By: Rajesh

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 659
Naxalite violence

Neena,
I view at naxalite movement from domestic context. I don't approve deeds of Mao in China and Stalin in Russia. I view it as a part of movement that was started by Ambedkar and continued by Lohia. I understand that it is very hard to justify violence. Gandhi had said that non-violence was successful against the British but would not be feasible against the Nazis.
I think the only way to end violence associated with naxalite movement is to address their cause with political process.


Posted By: Neena Prasad

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 664
To Rajesh

Rajesh,

Your bold comment "Though I do have sympathy for them and their cause."

I commend you for just accepting that you are friends (sympthasizer) of Naxals and believe in their cause.

You are also one of those people still left who think that by arms they will change the fate of the poor people. It is just a great Dogma as the same people who brought revolution either in Russia (Stalin killed more than 10 million people) or China (Mao Xe Dong killed almost 2-5 million people during Cultural revolution) and so on.
Prsperity and development can be brought with peace and working atmosphere that will provide stimulating environment to generate wealth that in return will uplift the poor from their poverty. The best example countries are Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Netherland, and of course USA and other many European countries.
Just today, there was a report that India and China can eliminate poverty by 2015. This a great news. India is in position to do eliminate the poverty and can become a developed country with economic development and so Bihar can improve and change for good but taking the path of development. Untill, Naxalites and their counter part like Ranvir Sena or others including the goons of Laloo do not change an dtake the right path, fate of Bihar is doom. Even God can not help.
So, do not propagate hate against any community or religion and embrace the path of good brotherhood.
Otherwise, Bihari will be a talk of jokes and people will make fun of Biharis and rightly so.


Posted By: Rajesh

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 657
Naxalite violence

Neena,
First, you are incorrect saying Naxalites are my people. They too have criminals among them. Though I do have sympathy for them and their cause.
I think you can't miss one positive about the news you posted that the naxalites made sure that the station was vacated before triggering explosion. Ranbir sena, on the other hand, would have made sure nobody leave the place maximizing harm to the innocents.
It is also well known that even though both naxalites and landlord's private army were in engaged in violent attacks, only naxalites who get arrested, get killed in encounter and convicted. There is not a single conviction for Ranbir sena activists and I don't condone Laloo's 12 years of social justice and the judiciary for this.


Posted By: Neena Prasad

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 635
Rajesh

Hey Rajesh,
Here is another example what your people are doing in Bihar. You expect to improve Bihar with the help of these criminals.

Ultras blow up Bihar rly station after vacating employees
Press Trust of India
Gaya, February 5

Continuing their offensive for the third day running, People's War Group (PWG) militants blew up Gurari railway station on Gaya-Mughalsarai grandchord section of the East Central Railway in Bihar's Gaya district early on Thursday.

Police said heavily-armed PW extremists stormed the station, asked the employees to vacate the station premises and triggered off the explosion to demolish the station building.

Rail traffic was disrupted for more than four hours on the vital section. Trains, however, resumed operation from this morning, police said.

Raids were being conducted at different places to arrest the extremists who also looted cash box during the attack. No no railway employee was harmed.

This is the third major strike by the PW in Bihar during the past three days.

The station master of Pothi railway station in Bihar's Jehanabad district, Anil Kumar was abducted by armed People's War activists who also locked the station office disrupting movement of trains for four hours on Patna-Gaya section of the East Central Railway yesterday, barely a day after they had kidnapped and released the station master of Nadaul station.

The naxalites are protesting against the arrest of their leader Mukesh alias Lal Das Mochi carrying a reward of Rs 1 lakh at Masaurhi on Tuesday.



Posted By: Rajesh

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 630
Judging caste

We all know it is important "what is said".
It is also important "who said it".
But most important is "what is the caste who said it".
Now that we live in cyber world, the last part has become more difficult. It takes lot more creativity and imagination. But I can tell right now that it is not working..


Posted By: A K Verma

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 631
Pravin Sinha

Pravin,
You cannot belong to my caste. You belong to Rajesh (A backward's mentality never goes away).
So, donot write next saying that you are ????
Waste of time.


Posted By: Pravin Sinha

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 630
To A. K. Verma

You are just an idiot. Anita said I am a Kurmi (just because I praised Nitish) and you started bouncing on me. If reveal my caste and say that I belong to your caste, then you will start caring me.

You are just a hopeless Bihari Citizen. You are realy a chamaeleon.


Posted By: A K Verma

Posted On: Feb 6, 2004
Views: 618
Pravin

Sorry for my mistake including Pravin in the category of others. Pravin has some class and sense of dignity. After reading Pravin's last comment for Anita Choudhary, he seems just reasonable.


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